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7:01 am October 17, 2008
| David Dixon
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Can we integrate wordpress blog or create a bridge for WP and MS
As WordPress can also integrate a forum – as we are seeing with this Simple Press forum – it would be a great way to kill two birds with one plugin.
(I really have concerns about the security of the phpbb forum, and really don't want to pay $180 for vbulletin as I don't require that heavyweight platform as MS is the main attraction at my sites.)
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2:46 am October 19, 2008
| macknox
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Yes please!!!

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4:48 am October 19, 2008
| Nam Tran Ybarra
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That's what I thought, David. I checked with tech team and they said with 2.02 the most it could be done is like forum integration. For full integration, seamless template is impossible. The thing with all 3rd party plugins is 2 ways integrations and seamlessly blended to each other. So far, this idea is impossible unless, for instance, WP to be re-written completely to fit with MS structure. Then we run into another problem is updating WP…
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9:02 pm October 24, 2008
| David Dixon
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I would be happy just have a wordpress blog install using a wordpress template and then having the simple:press forum install with the wordpress blog (like this one).
BUT what I would like is that when a user registers at MS site, the user name and password are integrated directly into WP so that they are automatically joined up and automatically login
Ideally you would "switch off" register in WP so that the register procedure is MS to WP (not WP first) and then the username could not be taken by someone who stumbles upon the blog by accident.
BUT If the MS programmers could develop a "WRAPPER" Module (a la Joomla), if they simply designed a blank WordPress theme (as far as design goes and with the register link removed from the theme - see above) then couldn't the wrapper function simply slot the blog into a page the same way that simple:press creates a page callled "forum" into the WP blog. Elegant and Neat
(Phew.. I hope that makes sense )
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7:06 am October 26, 2008
| newsblaze
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David,
If you are a programmer, I can show you how to do it.
It is relatively easy to integrate any external application
(since I spent a big chunk of time working out how)
You can create a new user if theyre not already registered and if they are registered,
just log them in, no need to type anything in, just click a link.
and of course you can add a little bit of logic to see what level they are registered at.
You should email me at alan@newsblaze.com because I don't come in here very often. and put MEMBERSPEED in the subject line so I take notice of it.
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7:22 am October 27, 2008
| Nam Tran Ybarra
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Hi Alan,
Were you able to make it seamlessly as David mentioned above?
If you could, we need to talk:)
Also, I would like to hear your thought on this idea ( it was submitted by one of our MS fellows)
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| 1 central control data base for all information. This data base could/should be housed in a separate location with the populating of its data base being via apis on a live basis from the participating sites. With information going only one way so as to prevent cross contamination of data between the central and site data bases. |
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| Working Description From Admin Side: |
Storage could be server side in a separate location or reside in the computer of the owner of the sites.
A separate data base would be set up for the sites with all of the pertinent information: name, url, host, address, dns etc etc as defined in the individual site data bases. Plus you would add one more field to all of the module data bases for site.
You would be able to use a default format similar to Instant Overview of your business as a whole, by individual site and by a defined group ( similar to creating a category). Or you would be able to define what information you require from each individual module. Ie. marketing data, administrative data or accounting/finance data.
This is the critical part. Being able to define what information you desire and in what format. As all of us have our own tracking and monitoring software we use for our business. However, with more and more software it is in now possible to import data in a certain format to allow the reporting program to utilize the data. For example UTF-8 format.
For example: Membership you would have all of the current data fields plus one for individual sites. Now you can monitor what his happening on a global basis among your sites or in each individual site level. You may decide to have a special that all your sites could benefit from. You then would have the ability to do a mass email without duplicating the messages to your membership. So if you had a member in 2 or more of your sites then the process would filter that out. Or the email you want to send out is applicable to only 2 of your sites. So the email would send only to the members of those 2 sites. Again with no duplication.
If you carry the example further for use on affiliate programs whether they are your own or you are selling as an affiliate. Again in each case you would add the field of the sites. So you would be able to monitor what the global income was and how it broke down by site by product etc..
Further if your accounting is centralized you would then be able to issue an affiliate cheque rather then several if you had the same affiliates selling for a number of your sites or products. The same holds true for JV, Member-Member
For marketing you would also be able to start tracking trends that you would not have seen otherwise. To allow you to adjust your targets accordingly
For administration purposes should you be changing an affiliate program you could then be able to make the change from one central location as opposed to opening up each individual site and making the change. This hold true with all links and advertising as well
This would hold true for other areas such as products, services, member tp member offers. JVs etc.
Should you want to access data on an individual site basis then the module would physically open the subject site for you to make your adjustments on the individual site. This way there is only one change needed as the main data base is populated by the individual site data bases.
This module would be set up as basically its own site. With all of the same modules with the added feature of merging the data in a useable format. You would have one more setting within your Admin Management module which would monitor access to this module and in what module in what site.
On the site side – The only difference would be the extra site info data base plus one field would be defaulted in each site to the site itself. Only when the data would be brought in to the central data base would it then be relevant to data being manipulated. Very similar to the development of a consolidated balance sheet and income statement for e conglomerate. Or a multi-divisional company.
There would be no physical difference in the actual operation of the site from a webmaster's point of view. All tasks and functions would be performed in the same manner. With one notable exception that that is the initial set up at the beginning with all of the relevant site information: name url dns domain renewal date host host contact info webmaster webmaster contact info admin username admin pasword
Another benefit of having the Control data base off site is that it also, if set up properly be utilized as a backup to the sites. Therefore if it were necessary to reload a site or utilize a backup all of the data is there. With the only exception being the back up of the control data base.
Information Flow:
Site A Site B Site C Site D Site E Site F
data flow via api / rss to
Central Control
data flow via exporting info flows via direct connection 3rd part programs or services and manual instruction to ie Quick Books , Aweber the sites for adjustments
Flows back to Central Control via api/rss for live update |
| Working Description From Visitor/Member Side: |
How it is seen from the visitor/members side: – no visible change with the exception should they decide to become a member of another site then it would save them time form filling in all of the data again. It would reduce the friction currently experienced. – reduction in email content. They would receive a single email rather then several repeat emails Also reduces the angst waiting for you email to down load and seeing several of the same email from the same people. – appearance of a unified front and comfort that the left hand does know what the right hand is doing. – physical operation of the site – no change. Less friction |
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Why is it needed: 2 reasons 1) – strictly for efficiency and cost savings in money and more importantly time. – Time saving from time spent in a totally expense function. Expenses that can never be recouped. If a person had 6 sites which they ran the time save just for logging in and out each day would amount to close to if not more then 1 hour per day. That is equivalent to a month and a half saving in time each year. We have not gone into the time taken either by us personally or our lowest paid team member having to go search for the figures and compiling them by hand.
2) Reduces the friction for the viewer and member of using the site. Not only from the site's physical operation but also regarding superfluous emails. Less friction ultimately should mean more sales. |
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A necessary add on as member continue to grow the quantity of sites. Central management of information becomes just a critical then as it does for the individual sites.
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Thanks,
Nam Tran
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9:46 am October 29, 2008
| David Dixon
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Hi Newblaze,
Sadly no, I am not a programmer. If you take the analogy of a car driver, I can look under the hood and do a few minor things, but it's more more tweaking than peeking and poking, and other than templates and a few minor html things, MS doesn't allow any php work due to the encryption)
Please have a chat to Nam Tran about this because even if it is a different template, to be able to share the info with the databases would be fantastic.
Two Questions… I am assuming that once registered the user would be able to move from MS to WP without the second login . Is that correct?
1. Would you be able to program so that registration would happen simultaneously for the MS and WP Blog ie register at MS and Info is sent straigh to the WP Database?
2. Would you be able to program so that different levels of membership would occur as well? The Blog is a News Page for all members; Free and Premium members & with unregistered also able to access the blog without registration..
I'm also using simple:press forum for WP, but it has different levels of membership, to match Free & Premium, Unregistered Users have almost no access to the forum. I have removed the Meta Links at WP and changed the links on WP login/register to make them login through MS after they have registered at MS first. Premium Members have much more access.
Anything that could be done to make it one step for users or auto update levels so I didn't would be excellent! While I'm happy to have all registered members have the same level and add/upgrade paid members manually, but if it could be done automatically from MS – well that would be brilliant!
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8:23 am November 19, 2008
| ccenterprises56
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We have been asking for something along these lines since the CMSInfusion days and I keep reading that maybe it will be in the next release. I'm tired of waiting. Is there a third party product or script that will do what we are looking for?
I am not a programmer but at my old job we used do what we called "A single sign on" all the time and it was apparently not very difficult as the billing for it was low and the programming time minimal.
If we could get the successful registration on MS to pass on information to a WordPress, Forum or whatever registration page then it could also create a membership over there.
by pass on I mean inbeded in a webpage request something like http://www.yourblog/registration/>>here is where info to be passed on is included such as username and password]
Following up with that, if there were a link inside a member area to that WP blog that when clicked, passed on the MS Unsername and Password to the login page of that blog (which would be the same as that blog) then it would give the appearance of single sign on so our members wouln't have to register a second time and log on a second time.
It's nice to give paying members privaledges and this would allow us to use the secondary applications as perks for membership and exclude non paying members fully or totally.
If anyone knows how to do this or has contracted a freelancer to do this, could you please post your experience here so other can follow your lead.
Of course, ideally I would love to see it as an MS feature.
Thanks
-Chris
http://www.kidsmakingchange.com
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6:37 pm May 24, 2009
| DCLMktg
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Hi all,
Getting close to needing to set up some MS sites. Wondered if there was any progress on this please?
Thanks. DCL
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4:29 pm August 5, 2009
| DCLMktg
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Hi folks,
Disappointing that almost 3 months later, there's no update on this…..
DCL
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5:31 pm September 23, 2009
| DCLMktg
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Oops-4 months later – still no reply 
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1:12 pm September 27, 2009
| Nam Tran Ybarra
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No, there is no plan on doing this at the moment for the reason I stated a while back. Sorry…
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9:59 am February 13, 2011
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Post edited 10:08 am – February 13, 2011 by DCLMktg
Post Awaiting Approval by Forum Administrator
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